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Harley Quinn Contest Page by Carliihde Harley Quinn Contest Page by Carliihde
Here's my contest entry for DC's, Break Into Comics With Harley Quinn Contest www.dccomics.com/node/305151... That's a mouthful. Had a lot of fun with this page. Had some great visuals and it really asked for a range of different emotions, textures and environments (That's probably why they chose a page because it would be good for a portfolio...)

I really DO NOT want to get into the debate that is currently surrounding this contest. I have read what people are saying but I've also done my share of research surrounding the context of the page and the reasons for putting it in the comic. There is no doubt in my mind the I'm on DC's side %100. People are saying "But it's Suicide Awareness Month" That may be, but it was "Adopt-a-cat month" in June and I'm sure a lot of people didn't even know about it. And I'm sure lots of people didn't adopt a cat and I'm sure a fair number of cats died in a shelter out there without knowing it was Adopt-a-cat-month. (ok enough, that's making me cry) I'm just saying people don't seem to care about things until someone complains about it. Most people wouldn't have though twice about the contest if someone hadn't made a big deal about it and the person who made the deal probably didn't even care to read the satirical context behind the page in the first place.
I am a woman. I've read the tropes, seen the tropes, lived the tropes. Condemn me if you want, but I've got art to do and I love every second of it.

I hope you like it!
Comments and critiques always welcome (but please don't pick a fight)
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Jamibug Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Professional General Artist
Great page! I like how clearly you illustrated each scenario. I admittedly haven't seen a ton of entries, but this is the first time I actually get what she's doing in the first panel, even after reading the actual issue and the chosen page. Plus her facial expressions are perfect.
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TheRockingHorseFly Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
like how you portrayed harley!! :D I love her. And it's nice that, while she's definitely still pretty here, you didn't make her unnecessarily "sexy". Hate when people overdo that... anyways, really like it :)
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much! i'm sad I didn't win, but it was sure fun to draw. I really connect with Harley
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TheRockingHorseFly Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
aw, well. Maybe they picked the other because it had color, but I still prefer yours to the winner's :) If there's ever another contest like this, I would definitely support you submitting. 
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JackDBram Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
oh laws yes, this is fantastic!
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sgmusic Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013
Hey, any idea when we find out who won this thing?
Great work by the way - good luck :)

Here's mine...

sgmusic.deviantart.com/art/Har…
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013  Professional General Artist
That's awesome! I have no idea who won, or if the winner was even announced yet. I've been dying to know as well!
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sgmusic Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
Hey thanks for the reply! 
Whenever I go to the DC contest page it just says you don't have permission to access the page.
Oh well...I guess we'll just have to wait.  Best of luck to you in your career whatever the outcome!
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Orion-Zangara Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
This really is the best of all the submission that I have seen so far. To be honest, your art is freakin' amazing!
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much Orion, that really means a lot coming from you since I've always loved and been inspired by your work
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jromey14 Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013
I really like your rendition of this. I participated as weel. I went straight pencils and went for really dynamic camera angles especially on the tub panel. Yours is an incredible take though. Wish you luck on this. Don't know about you, but I'm really antsy about this.
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
For sure! I definitely want to see who is the winner. There are sooooo many awesome entries! You should post yours up!
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RodGallery Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Hey you also participated of the contest, nice one. I liked of your style.
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TazioBettin Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I remember noticing this one as one of the best while I was browsing through the contest's pages. Congratulations, great work on the facial expression.
Alas, judging from what I've seen I don't think any of us here on DA will be chosen -and that includes me- but I wish you the best nonetheless.
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well, you can't really exclude anyone quite yet. We still arent sure what exactly DC is looking for. I haven't looked through the contest page, I didn't know there was one. Do you have a link? Anyone's work in particular that you've seen online that you think might win instead of someone on DA? Just curious, all we can do now is wait. :) but good luck!
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TazioBettin Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
No, not a definite idea but I know what editors of Marvel look for, and I think that DC is just as picky, if not more. I could probably point what's wrong (or rather, not enough) for such a high profile publisher, but I'm not sure I can explain what would make a winning page. I have only seen DA submissions, nothing outside of it.
Here I see problems from "that's not a whale" or "it's not clear what's happening here" to anatomy or perspective problems, or just bad use of the panel sizes and shape or of the 'camera' from which the scene is seen. For example, I know that my page has a huge repetitivity issue. She's always seen from the side or with small variations, from the same distance and in positions that aren't that different except for panel 4.  But I wanted to impress with panel shapes and didn't pay enough attention to other important things. Hindsight, heh.
Oh and almost nobody did the most intuitively correct thing about the panels. We're seeing Harley doing different things in different situations. It's not a narration, so each panel has the same narrative value, and therefore, it should cover the same area as the others. I basically built over that concept because by what I know narration is the first thing editors look at.
I'm certainly excluding myself, but we'll see what happens at NYCC...
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Is that where they are announcing the winner? I almost went this year, but I didn't have the money to fly to NYC.
So other than the fact that my whale is more of a beluga than a blue or sperm whale, what would you say is incorrect with my page? Don't you worry, I really think you are being super smart about this and I apologize if you think I', putting you on the spot, but I'd really appreciate your feedback and it would help to remember the flaws for next time :)

-Carli
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TazioBettin Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Again, I must admit my utter ignorance: I have no idea where they announce it honestly. Since they didn't specify, I'm guessing they'll just email the winner and maybe not even bother telling the others... I go to NYCC because I want to talk to as many editors as possible hoping to find gigs.

Hmmm. I really am no authority whatsoever in comics. I've only had one and a half issues published with my pencils and inks, and it was Zenescope comics. I'm a small fish. So my opinion should count very little.
That being said, I appreciate your tact very much. You're a very polite person.
So... ok, let's try to put together my thoughts. The first thing I notice is that you have problems with perspective. There are two perspective constructions on panel 1 and 4. On panel 1 the leftmost building, in particular, has the fašade on the left with a weirdly tall perspective point., not matched by any of the other buildings. All surfaces that are parallel to each other and lie on the same ground need to share the same vanishing point.
The bathtub on panel 4 does not share the same perspective point as the floor: they're on two different horizon lines and that can't happen. You can have many perspective points but they have to share the horizon if they lie on the same surface (of course that doesn't count if you have a flying object but that's not the case). In panel 1 the lack of a horizon is quite evident. But perspective is a heartless bitch, and the gods know how long it took me to begin having a slight grasp of it. I recommend the book "Vanishing points" by Jason Cheeseman Meyer. Best purchase of my life.
I also feel like you aren't using much reference, am I wrong? A cellphone tower looks very different from how you depicted it. So do skyscrapers, generally speaking. May I suggest that you use more photo reference? This was the first advice I got from Marvel/DC artist Alessandro Vitti and took it to my heart. I think I failed, but in panel 1 I tried my best to show not any nondescript city, but Gotham, with art deco motifs, gargoyles etc. The devil is in the details, right?
I like her expressions. They work great. But there's a big dissonance between the human figure and the backgrounds.

Now, the other, very very important level: narration. Each panel in your page has a different shape and size. That usually works great, but I think that in this case -where you have four scenes that share no narrative (different times, different places, different situations)- they should all have the same size. Why? It emphasizes the fact that they are four separated scenes.
I tried to play on that concept. No two panels are alike, but since they're four cards, your mind inconsciously processes them as being of the same size and shape. And therefore nullifying the narrative hierarchy. In other words, there's no main or secondary, before or after. I may be wrong, but I thought that was important.
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Wow, you read me like a glove! Ha, perspective is definitely my weakest category in art. I don't think I'll ever be quite comfortable with it :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to critique! I really appreciate it! Looks like you put lots of thought into it and that's awesome
Like I said, good luck and honestly I really like your submission. I think it looks very professional.
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TazioBettin Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You'll slap me for saying this but perspective is fun. It makes your pages unique, it challenges your limits and gives space and time to the action that is happening. A one-point perspective makes things dramatic. A two points gives direction of movement. A three points is pure gorgeousness.
It's just a matter of having the right books that explain it, and if you get books that explain it badly or just don't give you the info you need, I know it's terribly frustrating. But once you use it, it's a tool that marks the difference between amateur and pro.

And you're welcome, you've been so gracious about it, it was a pleasure. But really, it's just my tuppence. Maybe a real professionist will tell you that all I've been saying is utter hogwash.
Also thank you for your encouraging comment. I really like your art, let's do an art trade some time if you like!
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
That would be cool! :)
Have a good week sir!
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RobertDanielRyan Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
I love the expressions on her face and the fact that you grunged up her bathtub a little bit. I should have thought of that! :)
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much Robert!
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RobertDanielRyan Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
No problem, always nice to see new stuff from you :)
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klosx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Good luck!=)
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JasonTormos Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013   Digital Artist
Nice work!
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you! That means a lot, your work is gorgeous
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JasonTormos Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013   Digital Artist
Your Welcome :)
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MichaelLinkJr Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013
Wow, that's fantastic! Finally finished my page (and now I'm allowing myself to peek at other people's stuff) and wow. I don't stand a chance! lol (LOVE PANEL 3. That is awesome.)
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much Michael and thank you for the watch as well :) There really aren't a lot of people posting their page online. That makes me nervous! It's pretty much anybodies game and I just know someone is going to pop up with a ridiculously awesome page and just take the whole show.
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MichaelLinkJr Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
'Tis the nature of the game, I suppose. If anything, at least it's a page for the portfolio. I've been debating on whether or not to post online, myself. I think I'm going to wait until the contest is over. lol
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Professional General Artist
Worried someone might steal your ideas?
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MichaelLinkJr Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013
More embarrassed than anything else.
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well that whale in the 3rd panel of yours is cuter than anything i've ever seen hah
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MichaelLinkJr Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
Really? Thanks! Your third panel was awesome too. I love how dynamic it looks. Totes jealous. =)
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Polymental69 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Best entry I've seen yet. I'd bet on you :)
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much!
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Diableret Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Okay that makes my entry look terrible. amazing work. Hope they pick it :)
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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Don't say that, everyone's go their own style. Like I said before, it's anybody's game. Plus, just think of all the amazing artists that didn't put their work up online
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guilhermerw Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013   General Artist
SIMPLY AMAZING! Congratulations.


And I admit my defeat xD


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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you so much but there are so many beautiful entries, it's anybody's game
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guilhermerw Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013   General Artist
Yes! I actually saw a lot of good artwork for the tryout around the web, and I'm algo making a new one for the same tryout.

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Carliihde Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yeah, some people definitely did some unique things and everyone has their own spin on it which is wonderful
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guilhermerw Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013   General Artist
exactly! :D

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yeliriley Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Harley seems just a tad bit suicidal. Now that I've read what's in the link I understand. Before or after reading it, the "chicken breasts" are hilarious! This is excellent work!
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yeliriley Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Good luck!
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NSN-Design Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
Carli, you did a great job. You look good as Harley.  Let's hope for a full Harley issue(or RUN) in the future. All of the panels do a great job of telling their story and can stand alone. Combined, it's a fantastic comic page.

I call dibs on any covers (c:
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gatorbackradial Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome! I don't have a better word(s) for it! Love the fryers around the neck with the gators!
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DaveStrong Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Good luck!  This looks great!  I love the last panel :)
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haius Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist
I think this is 100% hilarious.  Especially the alligator one.  XD
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